150W from 4 el34s? - Bugera 1960

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  1. LiveOVErdrive

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    So I've been eyeing the bugera 1960 because it looks like a really solid plexi clone for very little money.

    What I can't figure out is how they are getting 150W put of only 4 el34s tubes. Datasheets say the most you can get is like 55w from a pair (110w for 4)

    Is it a dyna-watt type of situation, where the attack of the note is louder until the power sags?
    Are they just rating the power differently? (square wave vs sine)

    Anyone have any idea?

    Oh I'd also love input on how good or bad this amp is :)
     
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    no one checks that shit. you can put whatever number you want. it's definitely putting out 150 watts at like full distortion so they are technically not lying.
     
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    MaxOfMetal Likes trem wankery. Super Moderator

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    Wattage ratings are closer to marketing speak than an actual measurement of anything. For instance most amps rated at "100 watts" tend to fall between 75 and 95 actual watts when measured.
     
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    Got it. I was mostly worried they were doing some weird "tube plus solid state" power section thing for that extra marketing boost. I don't have a problem with solid state power but if I'm gonna buy a simple plexi I want a simple plexi.
     
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    Burgera would never put in that kind of effort. :lol:
     
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    If you want a good plexi style amp, buy a vintage traynor yba.
     
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    I mean truthfully I've got a mark v so the crunch channel and tweed channel do a good job of getting plexi tones, but the GAS is real.
     
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    Technically they could run at 150W with high enough plate voltage but in this case I'm pretty sure they're not. Doesn't really matter if it's 100 or 150W IMO. Just get the Infinium model model and you're good. Pre Infinium is where the bad reputation comes from.
     
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    I know it's a Bugera, but it sounds pretty decent.

     
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    Andromalia Pardon my french

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    Bugeras don't sound bad. They're decently close to the originals they're copying, and those exploding amps were 10 years ago.
     
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    MaxOfMetal Likes trem wankery. Super Moderator

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    A Bugera dialed in by a competent player will sound just as good as what they're copying.
     
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    HeHasTheJazzHands greg rulz ok

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    The Bugeras sound fantastic. They probably wound sound EXACTLY the same because of some slightly different components, tubes, or controls (for some reason the Peavey clones don't have resonance controls :scratch:) but they're legit amps nowadays.

    Hell I've seen clips where the TriRecs sound better than actual Rectos. :lol:
     
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    It's not like they're copying anything cutting edge or made to some super high standard where small component tolerances would make a giant difference.

    Heck, the Marshall clones are probably made just as well as a lot of Marshalls depending on the vintage. :lol:
     
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    I mean Marshalls are just bassman clones anyway ;)
     
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    Go look up vintage traynors.
     
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    Actually the Infinium tech ruined their rep with me, poor wiring was at least repairable.
     
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